Rofl My bad. Long day.

Zeross wrote:

Booger Scelus wrote:

Wil buffed the Mp5 from what it used to be while he himself had one...

Oh and Blue, that's the Gatling Gun stats not the Osiris.

Edit:
Here are the Osiris stats.
Gun Stats for 'osiris minigun':
Damage: 20
Rate of Fire: 0.02
Freeze: 0.06
Reload: 0.2
Spread: 0.13 (14.89°)

Freeze round down to the next increment of .05 so yeah.

The Mp5 Navy stats when I initially had it were insane -_-.

Egh, I don't even feel like another easy argument. I don't even think you played Era when I first owned a Navy.

Let's go back in time to old stats when there were only 4 navies. When being rich actually made me good... :3

Andre2006 wrote:

I like the gun stats, when they are no longer constantly changed like they use to be and now that they are ALL sold in the shops I'm happy. You never knew how good the gun really were unless you really owned it because of guns being constantly changed during previous managements.

I own the dual shotguns and you are all noobs.

I used to like when guns stats were changed around all the time. It made the gun market more dynamic. It made the game dynamic. Owning a gun was taking a risk. One week your gun might be awesome, the next it might suck. Wealth rose and fell unpredictably (to players without inside knowledge.)
You never knew when your 20k Famas was going to turn into an 800k Famas or when your 1.5mil UMP was going to turn into a 140k UMP.

It could be like that again, even with guns in the shop, since their price is set by a script that bases their prices off of their stats.

Also, chasing runners was easier with .05 freeze

fiberwire wrote:

Also, chasing runners was easier with .05 freeze

So was running.

fiberwire wrote:

Andre2006 wrote:

I like the gun stats, when they are no longer constantly changed like they use to be and now that they are ALL sold in the shops I'm happy. You never knew how good the gun really were unless you really owned it because of guns being constantly changed during previous managements.

I own the dual shotguns and you are all noobs.

I used to like when guns stats were changed around all the time. It made the gun market more dynamic. It made the game dynamic. Owning a gun was taking a risk. One week your gun might be awesome, the next it might suck. Wealth rose and fell unpredictably (to players without inside knowledge.)
You never knew when your 20k Famas was going to turn into an 800k Famas or when your 1.5mil UMP was going to turn into a 140k UMP.

It could be like that again, even with guns in the shop, since their price is set by a script that bases their prices off of their stats.

Also, chasing runners was easier with .05 freeze

It wasn't as random as you think.
i.e. I could get any gun nerfed within a few hours of using it.

I could any gun buffed within a few minutes of arguing it.

All in all, it was a retarded system and contributed to the shittyness of the economy.

Chasing Runners was the same level of difficulty...
Well, for me, level of ease.

If you have an issue in that department despite all the provisions that have been put in place, I have one advice for you bro: Get Good.

I didn't say it was random, meaning haphazard, i.e. the opposite of systematic; I said it was dynamic, meaning changing, i.e. the opposite of static.
I also said wealth rose and fell unpredictably (to players without inside knowledge).

In regards to my comment about chasing people, not everything I say applies to you, Wil.

Not much applies to wil when it comes to pking.

Stfu, back then running was all about how fast you were.

Now you have to spend USD to fucking get to 1.13 speed..

Haha, shows how lazy era got before it was all about time and effort on your speed (The Gym's Treadmil's)

The Gun stats know are so stupid...I feel like I'm the only one who see's how fucking ridiculous they are..

All of the fucking Tier 2 Gun's Feel the same, and have no "individual" feel to them.

As Fiber said, changing gun stats every so often made era unique.

Hopefully Tim understands, that if ANY other staff member becomes Manager, the first thing they most likely do, would be to change the gun stats..

Josh still mad.

Buying TG, 450k

Zeross wrote:

It wasn't as random as you think.
i.e. I could get any gun nerfed within a few hours of using it.

I could any gun buffed within a few minutes of arguing it.

All in all, it was a retarded system and contributed to the shittyness of the economy.

Chasing Runners was the same level of difficulty...
Well, for me, level of ease.

If you have an issue in that department despite all the provisions that have been put in place, I have one advice for you bro: Get Good.

Exactly, I remember me getting the MP5K buffed and increased in price from 30,000 to 150,000 because I argued with staff about how the other post gang-guns were buffed and that the MP5K should get a little touch up as well. ( Masa owned about 3-4 of them and I owned 2 that I had bought because I knew I could get staff to do this) So I wouldn't want to change back to that.

hihihihii wrote:

Stfu, back then running was all about how fast you were.

Now you have to spend USD to fucking get to 1.13 speed..

Haha, shows how lazy era got before it was all about time and effort on your speed (The Gym's Treadmil's)

The Gun stats know are so stupid...I feel like I'm the only one who see's how fucking ridiculous they are..

All of the fucking Tier 2 Gun's Feel the same, and have no "individual" feel to them.

As Fiber said, changing gun stats every so often made era unique.

Hopefully Tim understands, that if ANY other staff member becomes Manager, the first thing they most likely do, would be to change the gun stats..

I don't see why you care, because every single gun you use is Tier 3. Your claims to being an oldbie who knows so much about Era's history are so false, running has never meant what your walk speed was, that's a stupid claim. Guns are fine, I mean, if they can script freeze to work in .01 intervals then I guess guns could be in a sense more "unique", but there really isn't a problem with the way they currently are. If what you're suggesting is that guns should return to their previous status, then I want to hit you in the face, because that enables kids like TK to become extremely lame again. The newer system for walk speed is much better IMO, due to the fact that the older system made it much more unfair for newer players who had just started, this system allows everyone to start at the same base (level 5 with the old system) 1.08 walk speed, and can be boosted by paying gelats, but due to the large quantity you get, most players don't have to pay usd, but can rather buy them with the money they make on Era.

I remember when people figured out how to macro on the treadmill haha.

good times.

Jess wrote:

I remember when people figured out how to macro on the treadmill haha.

good times.

That shit was so difficult with it changing speeds.

And if you messed up one time, the hours of going steady got reset and you got no EXP.

The best one was when I straight no-lifed it for 3 hours and watched LOTR and gained like 4200 exp, but only 750 counted and gave me one level.

fiberwire wrote:

I didn't say it was random, meaning haphazard, i.e. the opposite of systematic; I said it was dynamic, meaning changing, i.e. the opposite of static.
I also said wealth rose and fell unpredictably (to players without inside knowledge).

In regards to my comment about chasing people, not everything I say applies to you, Wil.

Your claim is still stupid. A dynamic economy is seldom good, in any context; you should know that. Stability is best because it allows for the people (players) to make logical goals that they can sensibly obtain.

You don't want to spend months mining for an Mp5 Navy which is 900k, only to find out that its now 2mil; what the fuck?

This system is so much better that... just shut up.

the system now is much more skill based and fair. no longer can u hold d and fly across the screen. you have to time your shots and make good decisions on your part to not get hit making sparring and pking more competitive. how is that not a welcome change to you josh?

as for the player count lately weve been on a steady increase since all of these changes have been put into place so clearly something is going right. the object of most of these updates is to attract players to stay and not have to put in 2000 hours to finally be able to compete. And frankly adding another tier with .05 freeze would make things even more unfair than they already were. Gun prices are fair, stats are balanced to avoid QQ, no one can decide to put obscene prices on certain weapons because "zomg its only 3 of a kind and us owners wants to hoards zem all!!". For once change is good just sit back and accept it.

you can't blame lower player counts on era specifically. graal pc as a whole has been on a decline for a while.

Frankie wrote:

you can't blame lower player counts on era specifically. graal pc as a whole has been on a decline for a while.

True, but Era's playercount looks like this

/

and that's despite all of the stupid server crashes.

Era player count only looks high because of not being able to disconnect any more, it's false stats.

What shrimps said.

Ya, as soon as we enabled idling it increased by about 20ish.


Also its summer so you do tend to get more people online aswell. Atleast at the start of summer before people start going outside and stuff.

BlueMelon wrote:

hihihihii wrote:

Osiris Minigun has 0.5

Gun Stats for 'Panther Pound Gatling':
Damage: 15
Rate of Fire: 0.16
Freeze: 0.2
Reload: 0.2
Spread: -1 (-113.41°)

that's GG nub

the stats should go back, it would take a good amount of skill to be competitive again and would make the game more fun..it's a pity tim is too retarded to understand

It is what it is. Stop QQing and get used to how it is now.

bloodykiller wrote:

BlueMelon wrote:

hihihihii wrote:

Osiris Minigun has 0.5

Gun Stats for 'Panther Pound Gatling':
Damage: 15
Rate of Fire: 0.16
Freeze: 0.2
Reload: 0.2
Spread: -1 (-113.41°)

that's GG nub

the stats should go back, it would take a good amount of skill to be competitive again and would make the game more fun..it's a pity tim is too retarded to understand

It's a shame that you're so bad that you can't win without a .05 freeze weapon, stop crying about it, the weapons are staying the way they are. Most of Era likes it this way anyway.

Nobody complained when people with Uzi's could beat people with Navies, back then.

Stfu Cyclone

People that are good can still beat others with an uzi.